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'Future of Voting in California' Hearing, Sacramento, Feb. 8
Mon, 02/08/2010 - 10:00am - 4:00pm
Just learned of this. Not sure there has been any widespread public announcement by SoS office.
This announcement (attached) went out to the county registrars and clerks.
An important meeting to make in person, for those of you who can.
The original is posted at: http://www.sos.ca.gov/voting-systems/hearings/
--Dan Ashby
The Future of Voting in California:
Secretary of State's Office
II. Heading into 2010: Taking Stock of the Post-HAVA
See instructions below for submitting written testimony.
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February 2, 2010
County ClerklRegistrar of Voters (CCROV) Memorandum #10050
TO: All County Clerks / Registrars of Voters
FROM:
Jennnie Bretsclmeider
Assistant Chief Deputy Secretary of State
RE: Voting Systems: Public Infonnational Hearing on the Future ofVoling in California
Secretary of State Debra Bowen will be hosting a public informational hearing on "The Future of Voting in California: The People, the Equipment, the Costs" to be held Monday, February 8, 2010, at 10:00 a.m. in the Secretary of State's auditorium at 1500 11th Street in Sacramento.
Attached is the agenda for the hearing.
Anyone can view a live webcast of the hearing by going to
http://www.sos.ca.gov/voting-systems/hearings/
The public is invited to attend and to provide testimony during the public comment portion of the hearing.
Written comments may also be submitted prior to or following the hearing and should be addressed to:
Secretary of State Debra Bowen
1500 11th Street, 6th Floor
Sacramento, CA 95814
Attn: Jennie Bretschneider
or via email to votingsvstems@sos.ca.gov
All written comments will be posted on the Secretary of State' s website.
If you have any questions, please contact the Office of Voting Systems Technology Assessment
at (916) 653-7244 or via email at voyingsystems@sos.ca.gov.
Dan Ashby
Co-Founder, Director
ElectionDefenseAlliance.org
EDA mail: Dan@electiondefensealliance.org
Phone: 877.375.3930
EDA News and Alerts: Click Here to Subscribe for E-mail Updates
The right of voting for representatives is the primary right by which all other rights are protected.
To take away this right is to reduce a man to slavery. . . Thomas Paine
This announcement (attached) went out to the county registrars and clerks.
An important meeting to make in person, for those of you who can.
The original is posted at: http://www.sos.ca.gov/voting-systems/hearings/
--Dan Ashby
The Future of Voting in California:
The People, the Equipment, the Costs
Secretary of State's Office
First Floor Auditorium
February 8, 2010, 10:00 a.m.
I. Introductory Remarks
- Debra Bowen, Secretary of State
II. Heading into 2010: Taking Stock of the Post-HAVA
Voting System and Election Administration Environment
- Brian Hancock, U.S. Election Assistance Commission
- Lowell Finley, Office of the California Secretary of State
- Doug Chapin, Pew Center on the States
III. Existing Voting Systems in California
- John Groh, Election Systems & Software
- Eric Coomer, Sequoia Voting Systems
- Marcus MacNeill, Hart Inter Civic
- McDermot Coutts, Unisyn Voting Solutions
- Curt Fielder, DFM Associates
IV. New Developments in Voting and Election Administration
- Bob Carey, Federal Voting Assistance Program
- Gregory Miller, Trust the Vote/Open Source Digital Voting Foundation
- Efrain Escobedo, Los Angeles County, Voting Systems Assessment Project
- Bill O'Neill, Runbeck Election Services
- Sandy McConnell, King County Elections, State of Washington
V. Public Comment Period
See instructions below for submitting written testimony.
Privacy Statement | Free Document Readers
Copyright © 2010 California Secretary of State
Submit Written Testimony for the Record
February 2, 2010
County ClerklRegistrar of Voters (CCROV) Memorandum #10050
TO: All County Clerks / Registrars of Voters
FROM:
Jennnie Bretsclmeider
Assistant Chief Deputy Secretary of State
RE: Voting Systems: Public Infonnational Hearing on the Future ofVoling in California
Secretary of State Debra Bowen will be hosting a public informational hearing on "The Future of Voting in California: The People, the Equipment, the Costs" to be held Monday, February 8, 2010, at 10:00 a.m. in the Secretary of State's auditorium at 1500 11th Street in Sacramento.
Attached is the agenda for the hearing.
Anyone can view a live webcast of the hearing by going to
http://www.sos.ca.gov/voting-systems/hearings/
The public is invited to attend and to provide testimony during the public comment portion of the hearing.
Written comments may also be submitted prior to or following the hearing and should be addressed to:
Secretary of State Debra Bowen
1500 11th Street, 6th Floor
Sacramento, CA 95814
Attn: Jennie Bretschneider
or via email to votingsvstems@sos.ca.gov
All written comments will be posted on the Secretary of State' s website.
If you have any questions, please contact the Office of Voting Systems Technology Assessment
at (916) 653-7244 or via email at voyingsystems@sos.ca.gov.
Dan Ashby
Co-Founder, Director
ElectionDefenseAlliance.org
EDA mail: Dan@electiondefensealliance.org
Phone: 877.375.3930
EDA News and Alerts: Click Here to Subscribe for E-mail Updates
The right of voting for representatives is the primary right by which all other rights are protected.
To take away this right is to reduce a man to slavery. . . Thomas Paine
Can Open Source Save Democracy? No, Says Bev Harris
Originally published at Blackboxvoting
Discussion: http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/80688.html
By Bev Harris
Founder, Black Box Voting http://www.blackboxvoting.org
Quite a wave of PR pieces have come out in the past few days about a new open source voting system -- NOT from Alan Dechert's well known Open Voting Consortium, but instead from an upstart, loosely connected to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and several cronies of the Holt-Bill-pushing verified voting fans.
So let's talk about this. I'm going to link you to Michael Hickens' piece, one of the many bloggers who jumped on this bandwagon. His article is headlined "Can Open Source Software Save Democracy?"
SHORT ANSWER: NO.
Before I get to that, and before outlining my concerns with the new "Open Source Digital Voting Foundation" concept, I'll point out that:
(1) THIS IS NOT ON THE IMMEDIATE HORIZON. The federal certification process takes two to three years
(2) Though not covered by U.S. antitrust laws, THIS IS STRUCTURED MUCH LIKE ANOTHER MONOPOLISTIC GRAB FOR U.S. ELECTION PROCESSES. This new group claims to have 26 states on board (though I doubt this) -- that would give a horizontal monopoly of over 50% of the USA; the "top to bottom" design also invokes vertical monopoly concerns, in that it wants to have the software control voter registration, ballot design, ballot counting, and even election auditing.
CAN OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE SAVE DEMOCRACY?
Counting votes inside computers conceals the counting from the public. If key processes are concealed from the public, you no longer have public elections. If you don't have public elections, The People no longer hold sovereignty over the instruments of government they have created, and it ceases to be a democratic system.
The core issues are not "security" or "assuring the public" as the author of this blog assumes. The ultimate issues are public right to know, and public ability to understand their own election without need for special expertise, and public controls. You cannot achieve these simply by replacing proprietary software with open source software.
Open source software DOES achieve two worthwhile things, though it doesn't solve our current elections problems. It does enhance our ability to get freedom of information requests filled, by eliminating the proprietary exemption, and it should significantly reduce cost. But costs are also reduced significantly by public hand counts, which, when done correctly, actually do restore democracy.
Case in point: Marion County, Indiana is conducting its next election by public hand count. This is a large jurisdiction (Indianapolis). The ballot is a small one, just four ballot questions. This will provide an excellent pilot project example for expansion of hand counts, beginning with elections with only a modest number of ballot questions. Marion County estimates that all together, it will save $288,000. In fact, the cost of just delivering the voting machines (be they open or closed source) was estimated by Marion County to be $22,000!
The German high court recently banned its e-voting system because it conceals the counting from the public. Open source changes this not a whit. Instead, Germany is now counting in public, by hand.
TWO MORE HALLMARKS OF PUBLIC ELECTIONS:
(1) The less centralized, the better (the more people, the better, the "many eyes" safeguard);
(2) the public needs to be able to understand how the election works, and be able to authenticate it, without need for special expertise.
IS THIS WHAT THE SENATE HEARING ON THE ES&S MONOPOLY IS LEADING TO?
You've gotta wonder. The acquisition of Diebold's elections division by Election Systems & Software, giving it 75% of the horizontal market and a vertical monopoly as well, is being questioned by a U.S. Senate committee, but the committee chosen is a bit odd: The Rules Committee. One might expect to see this investigation taken up by the Judiciary Committee (after all, monopolies are illegal and are typically investigated by the U.S. Dept. of Justice); or perhaps the Commerce Committee ... but the Rules Committee?
On this Rules Committee are the two key Senate pushers of forced voting machine purchase, Help America Vote Act sponsors Chris Dodd and Mitch McConnell. If only they had Steny Hoyer, they'd have the trifecta. Chairing the committee is Charles Schumer, who is now pushing an unwise Internet Registration bill (and Internet registration happens to be one of the areas this nifty new Open Source Digital Voting Foundation claims to be developing).
At first, after looking at the makeup of the senate committee undertaking the antitrust examination, I thought maybe they'd be using this as an excuse to expand the powers of the EAC. Now I expect the real reason these particular senators grabbed this particular investigation was to push an open source agenda -- but not just any open source agenda.
One particular open source agenda. The specific well oiled machine produced by a bunch of the folks who had been associated with the Quixote Group, who also have been associated with pushing the Holt Bill; those folks chummy with the multi-million-dollar NSF-funded ACCURATE. Always covered by Kim Zetter at Wired News. Usually pipelined in to the New York Times Editorial Page.
By the way, not all the "open source" code is being released.
And the only comment I can offer for that is: Strange, but true.
Now, here's one of the blogs on this:
Information Week Government Blogs
Oct. 26, 2009, by Michael Hickens
http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2009/10/can_open_sourc...
Can Open Source Software Save Democracy?
Discussion: http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/80688.html
By Bev Harris
Founder, Black Box Voting http://www.blackboxvoting.org
Quite a wave of PR pieces have come out in the past few days about a new open source voting system -- NOT from Alan Dechert's well known Open Voting Consortium, but instead from an upstart, loosely connected to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and several cronies of the Holt-Bill-pushing verified voting fans.
So let's talk about this. I'm going to link you to Michael Hickens' piece, one of the many bloggers who jumped on this bandwagon. His article is headlined "Can Open Source Software Save Democracy?"
SHORT ANSWER: NO.
Before I get to that, and before outlining my concerns with the new "Open Source Digital Voting Foundation" concept, I'll point out that:
(1) THIS IS NOT ON THE IMMEDIATE HORIZON. The federal certification process takes two to three years
(2) Though not covered by U.S. antitrust laws, THIS IS STRUCTURED MUCH LIKE ANOTHER MONOPOLISTIC GRAB FOR U.S. ELECTION PROCESSES. This new group claims to have 26 states on board (though I doubt this) -- that would give a horizontal monopoly of over 50% of the USA; the "top to bottom" design also invokes vertical monopoly concerns, in that it wants to have the software control voter registration, ballot design, ballot counting, and even election auditing.
CAN OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE SAVE DEMOCRACY?
Counting votes inside computers conceals the counting from the public. If key processes are concealed from the public, you no longer have public elections. If you don't have public elections, The People no longer hold sovereignty over the instruments of government they have created, and it ceases to be a democratic system.
The core issues are not "security" or "assuring the public" as the author of this blog assumes. The ultimate issues are public right to know, and public ability to understand their own election without need for special expertise, and public controls. You cannot achieve these simply by replacing proprietary software with open source software.
Open source software DOES achieve two worthwhile things, though it doesn't solve our current elections problems. It does enhance our ability to get freedom of information requests filled, by eliminating the proprietary exemption, and it should significantly reduce cost. But costs are also reduced significantly by public hand counts, which, when done correctly, actually do restore democracy.
Case in point: Marion County, Indiana is conducting its next election by public hand count. This is a large jurisdiction (Indianapolis). The ballot is a small one, just four ballot questions. This will provide an excellent pilot project example for expansion of hand counts, beginning with elections with only a modest number of ballot questions. Marion County estimates that all together, it will save $288,000. In fact, the cost of just delivering the voting machines (be they open or closed source) was estimated by Marion County to be $22,000!
The German high court recently banned its e-voting system because it conceals the counting from the public. Open source changes this not a whit. Instead, Germany is now counting in public, by hand.
TWO MORE HALLMARKS OF PUBLIC ELECTIONS:
(1) The less centralized, the better (the more people, the better, the "many eyes" safeguard);
(2) the public needs to be able to understand how the election works, and be able to authenticate it, without need for special expertise.
IS THIS WHAT THE SENATE HEARING ON THE ES&S MONOPOLY IS LEADING TO?
You've gotta wonder. The acquisition of Diebold's elections division by Election Systems & Software, giving it 75% of the horizontal market and a vertical monopoly as well, is being questioned by a U.S. Senate committee, but the committee chosen is a bit odd: The Rules Committee. One might expect to see this investigation taken up by the Judiciary Committee (after all, monopolies are illegal and are typically investigated by the U.S. Dept. of Justice); or perhaps the Commerce Committee ... but the Rules Committee?
On this Rules Committee are the two key Senate pushers of forced voting machine purchase, Help America Vote Act sponsors Chris Dodd and Mitch McConnell. If only they had Steny Hoyer, they'd have the trifecta. Chairing the committee is Charles Schumer, who is now pushing an unwise Internet Registration bill (and Internet registration happens to be one of the areas this nifty new Open Source Digital Voting Foundation claims to be developing).
At first, after looking at the makeup of the senate committee undertaking the antitrust examination, I thought maybe they'd be using this as an excuse to expand the powers of the EAC. Now I expect the real reason these particular senators grabbed this particular investigation was to push an open source agenda -- but not just any open source agenda.
One particular open source agenda. The specific well oiled machine produced by a bunch of the folks who had been associated with the Quixote Group, who also have been associated with pushing the Holt Bill; those folks chummy with the multi-million-dollar NSF-funded ACCURATE. Always covered by Kim Zetter at Wired News. Usually pipelined in to the New York Times Editorial Page.
By the way, not all the "open source" code is being released.
And the only comment I can offer for that is: Strange, but true.
Now, here's one of the blogs on this:
Information Week Government Blogs
Oct. 26, 2009, by Michael Hickens
http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2009/10/can_open_sourc...
Can Open Source Software Save Democracy?
